Van killers tape transcript


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  • Transcript of Shirley Ledford’s Tape
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    Ronald Markman Midnight Halloween, Shirley Ledford and friends catch a ride at their fastfood job. The driver stops for fuel and asks the riders to pay for gas so they can go to a party, but Shirley is tired and instead walks home. A silver van follows Ledford for a moment then stops directly in front of her. Smiling Roy Norris on the passenger side asks if she needs a lift.

    The girl enters the sliding door and Norris locks it shut while the driver, Lawrence Bittaker turns the radio loud and heads to Forest Lawn Cemetery. Ledford would have been safer had she merely fallen into a shark tank. Nothing too fancy, just a toolbox full of medieval agonies to be preserved in screams with a camera and sound recorder. Lawrence Bittaker moved to California with his foster parents in and was first arrested five years later at Following more arrests and time in juvenile jails for burglaries and property crimes, he took a stolen car across several state lines until he was stopped in Missouri.

    After caged for 19 months in a federal pen, angry Larry Bittaker is now unleashed on the world. On the bus trip from prison back to Los Angeles he got friendly with four children and their mother. Only days out of confinement, Bittaker was already a married man and stepfather of four. He got an apartment but had trouble paying the rent, so he stole a car, committed a few burglaries and got himself back in jail.

    His new wife left him and Bittaker wrote at his probation hearing that he no longer trusted people because of what his wife had done to him. For the next 20 years Bittaker was in and out of prisons for assault, burglary and grand theft. Bittaker told a judge reviewing his probation that prison was like home and he might kill if released. Three years later the state of California will gamble that Larry Bittaker had finally been rehabilitated.

    Let loose again in L. Norris met Bittaker in while serving for a rape conviction, telling everyone who would listen how women had caused most of the problems of his life. Within a month of his release, Norris raped again, this time dumping the girl in the desert. He was sent to Atascadero State Hospital to get cured and was back on the streets in time to prepare with Bittaker the plans they had discussed in prison.

    They bought plastic tape, pliers, rope, knives and an ice pick, with other scream-makers in a toolbox. They also bought a camera and tape recorder. They drove into the mountains to find a nice, quiet spot that would snare screams, finding a fire road just above Glendora. They knew too that dead targets tell no tales.

    And now it began. Cindy declined and continued walking. Norris jumped out and pulled Schaefer into the van, jamming a rag into her mouth and binding her wrists as Bittaker raced to the hills. Arriving at their mountain hideaway, both men leisurely rape the girl, then discuss how she should die. Norris hedged against murder, but eventually agreed to kill her himself as Bittaker held Schaefer in place.

    He tried to strangle Cindy but faltered when the girl started crying. Both men fastened a coat hanger around her neck and slowly tightened with a pair of pliers.

    Whatever happened, Norris apparently got over his nervous compassion in time to murder the girl and go after the next target. When finished with Cindy, they carried her body to the edge of the hillside and threw it into the bush, figuring the animals would eat the evidence. There was a whole world of hitchhikers for him to finally play out his hungry daydrems.

    He planned to eventually build a small town to imprison kidnapped teenage girls. They would remain naked, chained, tortured and forced into sex acts. Larry could finally feel like a real man or something with all those little girls being scared witless. Andreas Hall was hitching and barely missed getting picked up by Bittaker, taking a ride with a car that stopped just ahead. But Bittaker and Norris followed the car carrying Andrea until she got out on a street corner. Then Bittaker offered her another ride and the poor girl got in.

    Similar Silver Murder Mac When he finished raping Hall, Norris went back down the mountain road for some food, leaving the girl with Bittaker, hearing sharp screams as he left.

    Norris brought back sandwiches and Bittaker gave him a stack of poloroid photos. Bittaker had pushed the ice pick into one ear, all the way into her brain, but she was still alive. Then he turned Hall over to do the same to her other ear, stomping with his foot until the ice pick penetrated completely and the handle broke.

    But the girl was still breathing until the wire snapped. Jackie Gilliam just happened to be hitchhiking when the Murder Mack drove by. Gilliam was careful who she rode with, but after analyzing blue-eyed, smiling Bittaker and be-speckled, slap-happy Norris, she never thought the men would do any more than carry her across town. Bittaker spotted another hitchhiker, year old Jacqueline Lamp, and loaded her beside Gilliam. When the girls realized that the van was going away from their destinations, they waited for a moment to escape As the van slowed, Gilliam broke free and ran near a tennis court, Bittaker barely getting a hand on her, no one listening to her screams.

    Lamp is knocked unconscious by Norris as Gilliam passes out in the van while being tied by Bittaker. Both girls wake at the mountain graveyard where they began two days of a very slow death.

    Bittaker was getting more sophisticated at taking Polaroids and recording sounds, to capture just the right terrified look, the high-pitched scream. The men took humiliation pictures of both girls but only raped the older Gilliam. As Jacky Lamp fell out of the open side door of the van he bludgeoned her to death with a sledgehammer. Bittaker wanted another victim for his 38th birthday and saw a girl jogging near the beach. She turned into a doughnut shop just as Norris was ready to grab her.

    They waited nearly an hour for the girl to get back onto the street, but she knew someone inside and kept taking. Bittaker got bored and drove down the highway, slowing as he saw a girl walking by herself. Bittaker got out to follow her as Norris drove the van, but the girl abruptly went into the El Camino College parking lot. Bittaker maneuvered the van to the side of the girl, Norris poised to spring out and abduct her, but she sensed danger and ran away.

    Not wanting his birthday to be completely wasted, he and Norris went to see a movie instead. Two nights later, Bittaker follows a girl into the alleyway of her apartment. When he sees no witnesses, Bittaker sprays Mace from a squirt gun at her face.

    He thought it would be a better way to catch a target, but the chemical agent only makes her scream louder. Bittaker and Norris drive to the street when several neighbors come running. One of them memorizes the plate number. Bittaker is arrested and initially charged with assault with a caustic chemical, but the rap gets dropped because Mace is a chemical irritant and not a caustic agent.

    The difference is considerable in both bail and possible sentencing. Bittaker gladly accepts the lighter charge of being an ex-con in possession of tear gas and walked out of the police station just in time for Halloween. They drive into the San Fernando Valley and pick up attractive Shirley Ledford, just 16, around midnight on Halloween. With Ledford secure, Bittaker asks Norris to drive while he attacks the girl in the back.

    Norris drove for two hours as Bittaker mutilated Ledford with pliers and hammer, running the recorder until it ran out of tape. Bittaker then extracted his pliers from the tool box. Shirley then emits several high-pitched, prolonged screams and cries of agony as Bittaker alternately squeezes and twists her labia, clitoris, nipples and breasts with the pliers. Bittaker then returns the pliers to the tool box. Banging sounds can also be heard throughout, which are believed to have been made as Shirley came into contact with the walls and inner contents of the van as she writhed and flailed.

    Please stop it! Screams Bittaker: Is the recorder going? Norris: Yeah! Bittaker: Scream baby! Scream some, baby. Norris drives along the Golden State Freeway, then trades places with Bittaker. On tape, Norris taunts the girl to scream, then cracks her arm with a sledgehammer, breaking the elbow. After two hours, Bittaker prompts Norris to strangle the girl. He fashions a coat hanger around her neck, tightening with pliers as Bittaker had always done. Bittaker played his torture tapes and exhibited the endless snuff pictures to a few people he trusted at his motel, assuming that all men were excited with bondage pornography.

    The girls butchered by himself and Norris were also among the collection. It all would come back to haunt him. Sitting in his motel room, Bittaker fondled bottles of acid he recently bought, preparing for the next adventure. He was going to pick up Norris, abduct another girl and experiment with the burning acid. Investigation of a kidnapping and rape first led detectives to Norris, and Bittaker got arrested later that day. In his van investigators find many of the tapes including the Ledford massacre , although Bittaker allegedly buried the rest of the snuff photos and other items by the Forest Lawn Cemetery.

    Bittaker told authorities that he had merely given rides to the girls and paid them for sex, leaving them in the good company of Roy Norris.

    While in jail, Bittaker asked an inmate to draw a picture of a girl on the cell wall, then he said to draw a coat hanger and pair of pliers under the figure. Figuring that the mountain area where most of the girls were killed was a federal park, he would have a better chance under federal law rather than the state. There was no death penalty under fed statutes. Deputy District Attorney C. So hideous was the tape played in court of Shirley Ledford begging, crying, screaming in agony, with Bittaker commenting and laughing in the background that the defense had a tough job making the jury believe that he was not culpable.

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    Forty-eight hours later, a jogger found her naked remains on a random front lawn in Sunland, California. Posed with her legs apart, her mutilated corpse lay in an ivy patch. No one could have imagined the horror she endured. The following is a true account. Upon release they planned to rape, torture, and murder teenage girls. Specifically, one girl of each teenage year from 13 — They also used this time to search for desolated locales. In April, they discovered a secluded fire road in the San Gabriel Mountains.

    Crowbar in hand, Bittaker snapped the lock on the gate to the fire road and replaced it with his own. All they needed now was a victim. After Bittaker and Norris had finished constructing the bed in the rear of the van, beneath which they placed tools, clothes, and a cooler filled with beer and soda, they drove to the beach around p.

    So, they drove past her and parked alongside a driveway, where Norris exited the vehicle, slid open the side-door, and leaned into the van with his head and shoulders obscured from view. As Lucinda passed by, she exchanged a few words with Norris before he pounced, dragging her into the van.

    That moment sealed her fate. With bound wrists and ankles, her mouth duct-taped, Lucinda had no way to defend herself. Despite her initial scream, the only thing she could control was denying these monsters the satisfaction of witnessing her pain. I guess she knew what was coming. Norris remained in the back of the van with Lucinda. Forty-five seconds in, and he became so freaked out by her protruding eyes he ran to the front bumper of the van and vomited.

    But Bittaker was unfazed. He wrapped his vice-gripped fingers around her neck, her body slowly wilting to the ground. Lawrence Bittaker at his trial in A similar cycle occurred two weeks later when the murderous pair spotted year-old Andrea Joy Hall hitchhiking along the Pacific Coast Highway. After raping and torturing Andrea, they forced her to pose for Polaroids. Sheer terror shone in her eyes as she pleaded for her life. Neither man listened. Instead, they drove an ice pick through her skull, strangled her, and then tossed her lifeless remains off a cliff.

    Luring the two girls into the van with marijuana and a free ride worked remarkably well. Rather, he drove toward the San Gabriel Mountains. When year-old Jacqueline slid open the side-door, Norris slammed her over the head with a pre-filled bag of lead weights, knocking her momentarily unconscious. He then attempted to bind and gag year-old Jackie Gilliam, but Jacqueline regained composure and again tried to escape. Sadly, she was no match for Norris, who wrenched her arm behind her back and dragged her back into the van.

    Roy Norris shortly before his arrest. Meanwhile, Bittaker, noting the struggle was in full view of witnesses, slid the shifter into park, climbed in back, and sucker-punched Jacqueline in the face, then assisted Norris in binding and gagging the two girls. When they finally arrived in the San Gabriel Mountains, Jackie and Jacqueline were held captive for nearly two full days, repeatedly raped and forced to pose for pornographic Polaroids. Those poor girls were tortured in unimaginable ways, including having their breasts punctured with an ice pick.

    He beat Jacqueline with a sledgehammer, strangled her for fun, beat her again, and then strangled her to death. The Toolbox Killers tossed both bodies over an embankment into a California chaparral.

    From the grave Shirley Lynette Ledford, whom I mentioned at the beginning of this post, ignited the strongest emotional response in the jurors and courtroom audience. The prosecutor played 17 grueling minutes of a tape recording which showed the amount of terror Shirley endured before death.

    The transcript of which you can find here. Before you do, I need to caution you. This sweet, young girl endured masochist behavior at the hands of pure evil. Proceed at your own risk. Apparently, Bittaker frequented the establishment.

    Moments after Shirley climbed inside the van, Bittaker drove to a secluded side street while Norris drew a knife. He then bound and gagged Shirley with barricade tape. The nightmare had begun. The audio recording is no longer available. I doubt you could listen to more than a full sixty seconds of it.

    So, even though he tried to downplay his involvement during his testimony, he still switched places with Bittaker, taking turns torturing and raping this young girl. Norris was the one who switched on the tape recorder—a sick, twisted individual who wanted to memorialize his own sadistic treatment of Shirley.

    Make no mistake, both men were equally vicious. They had no empathy for the victims or their families. In my opinion, Norris deserved equal punishment, but he cut a deal by testifying for the prosecution.

    Shirley begged him not to hit her again. In return, Norris struck that same broken elbow 25 more times. When he finally stopped, he glared at Shriley, who was sobbing, shaking, and terrified. After two solid hours of unimaginable torture, Norris finally killed Shirley by strangling her with a coat hanger, tightening the wire with pliers.

    Norris agreed. Not wanting to waste his last chance to humiliate this poor girl, he wrenched open her legs. Death by lethal injection would be too kind for these two. The autopsy revealed extensive blunt-force trauma to the face, head, breasts, left elbow, with her olecranon the bony tip of the elbow sustaining multiple fractures.

    Torn genitalia and rectum was caused in part by Bittaker raping her with pliers. Her left hand bore a puncture wound and a deep slash mark scarred the finger on her right hand. At trial, Bittaker claimed the tape recording was nothing but a threesome, but added that toward the very end Shirley Ledford pleaded for death.

    Can you blame her? The bodies of Lucinda Schaefer and Andrea Hall remain undiscovered. As for Bittaker, an initial execution date was set for December 29, , which Bittaker appealed. The U. Supreme Court upheld the decision set a new date of execution for July 23, And again, Bittaker appealed. Only this time, on July 9, , the court granted a stay. What happened to Norris?

    The parole board denied his request for release in Nonetheless, he will have served his full year prison term in Just think: this monster will one day roam the streets again. Hug your children a little tighter tonight. If you enjoyed this post, please share.

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    They also bought a camera and tape recorder. They drove into the mountains to find a nice, quiet spot that would snare screams, finding a fire road just above Glendora.

    They knew too that dead targets tell no tales. And now it began. Cindy declined and continued walking. Norris jumped out and pulled Schaefer into the van, jamming a rag into her mouth and binding her wrists as Bittaker raced to the hills.

    Arriving at their mountain hideaway, both men leisurely rape the girl, then discuss how she should die. Norris hedged against murder, but eventually agreed to kill her himself as Bittaker held Schaefer in place. He tried to strangle Cindy but faltered when the girl started crying. Both men fastened a coat hanger around her neck and slowly tightened with a pair of pliers. Whatever happened, Norris apparently got over his nervous compassion in time to murder the girl and go after the next target.

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    When finished with Cindy, they carried her body to the edge of the hillside and threw it into the bush, figuring the animals would eat the evidence. There was a whole world of hitchhikers for him to finally play out his hungry daydrems. He planned to eventually build a small town to imprison kidnapped teenage girls. They would remain naked, chained, tortured and forced into sex acts.

    Larry could finally feel like a real man or something with all those little girls being scared witless. Andreas Hall was hitching and barely missed getting picked up by Bittaker, taking a ride with a car that stopped just ahead. But Bittaker and Norris followed the car carrying Andrea until she got out on a street corner. Then Bittaker offered her another ride and the poor girl got in. Similar Silver Murder Mac When he finished raping Hall, Norris went back down the mountain road for some food, leaving the girl with Bittaker, hearing sharp screams as he left.

    Norris brought back sandwiches and Bittaker gave him a stack of poloroid photos. Bittaker had pushed the ice pick into one ear, all the way into her brain, but she was still alive.

    Then he turned Hall over to do the same to her other ear, stomping with his foot until the ice pick penetrated completely and the handle broke. But the girl was still breathing until the wire snapped. Jackie Gilliam just happened to be hitchhiking when the Murder Mack drove by. Gilliam was careful who she rode with, but after analyzing blue-eyed, smiling Bittaker and be-speckled, slap-happy Norris, she never thought the men would do any more than carry her across town.

    Bittaker spotted another hitchhiker, year old Jacqueline Lamp, and loaded her beside Gilliam. When the girls realized that the van was going away from their destinations, they waited for a moment to escape As the van slowed, Gilliam broke free and ran near a tennis court, Bittaker barely getting a hand on her, no one listening to her screams. Lamp is knocked unconscious by Norris as Gilliam passes out in the van while being tied by Bittaker. Both girls wake at the mountain graveyard where they began two days of a very slow death.

    Bittaker was getting more sophisticated at taking Polaroids and recording sounds, to capture just the right terrified look, the high-pitched scream.

    The men took humiliation pictures of both girls but only raped the older Gilliam. As Jacky Lamp fell out of the open side door of the van he bludgeoned her to death with a sledgehammer. Bittaker wanted another victim for his 38th birthday and saw a girl jogging near the beach.

    She turned into a doughnut shop just as Norris was ready to grab her. They waited nearly an hour for the girl to get back onto the street, but she knew someone inside and kept taking.

    Bittaker got bored and drove down the highway, slowing as he saw a girl walking by herself. Bittaker got out to follow her as Norris drove the van, but the girl abruptly went into the El Camino College parking lot. Bittaker maneuvered the van to the side of the girl, Norris poised to spring out and abduct her, but she sensed danger and ran away.

    Not wanting his birthday to be completely wasted, he and Norris went to see a movie instead. Two nights later, Bittaker follows a girl into the alleyway of her apartment. When he sees no witnesses, Bittaker sprays Mace from a squirt gun at her face. He thought it would be a better way to catch a target, but the chemical agent only makes her scream louder. Bittaker and Norris drive to the street when several neighbors come running.

    One of them memorizes the plate number. Bittaker is arrested and initially charged with assault with a caustic chemical, but the rap gets dropped because Mace is a chemical irritant and not a caustic agent. The difference is considerable in both bail and possible sentencing. Bittaker gladly accepts the lighter charge of being an ex-con in possession of tear gas and walked out of the police station just in time for Halloween.

    They drive into the San Fernando Valley and pick up attractive Shirley Ledford, just 16, around midnight on Halloween. With Ledford secure, Bittaker asks Norris to drive while he attacks the girl in the back. Norris drove for two hours as Bittaker mutilated Ledford with pliers and hammer, running the recorder until it ran out of tape. Bittaker then extracted his pliers from the tool box.

    Shirley then emits several high-pitched, prolonged screams and cries of agony as Bittaker alternately squeezes and twists her labia, clitoris, nipples and breasts with the pliers. Bittaker then returns the pliers to the tool box. Banging sounds can also be heard throughout, which are believed to have been made as Shirley came into contact with the walls and inner contents of the van as she writhed and flailed. Please stop it! Screams Bittaker: Is the recorder going? Another tape released by the FBI was an interview conducted in with the killer's first victim.

    It's a painful five minutes of hearing exactly how a monster goes about his work. Thanks to California's statute of limitations, it's also our only record of a crime he cannot be tried for. He is awaiting trial on at least 13 murder charges and 13 charges related bimar bf ke liye shayri sexual assaults. Nineteen-year-old ex-student Nikolas Cruz activated a fire alarm before opening fire on the fleeing students, killing While most of the subsequent media flame wars focused on whether more gun control or more mental health funding might have prevented the massacre, a few noted there had been a much more direct way of stopping it.

    The FBI had a minute tape in their possession of someone close to Cruz warning the teenager was going to "start shooting places up. The tape was recorded on January 5, less than six weeks before Cruz slaughtered his former schoolmates.

    It came from the FBI's official tip line, which was set up precisely to stop this sort of bloodbath from happening. If you read the transcripts, the call is full of warnings that Cruz had posted on Instagram "I want to kill people," that he'd attacked family members and was prone to violence, and that he had pictures up online of small animals he'd butchered with kitchen knives. The call should have been less a red flag than a blaring warning sign with gigantic flashing lights. The FBI later said the call should have been forwarded to their Miami office and that mistakes had been made.

    Sadly, those mistakes resulted in the deaths of 17 people. The accidental recording of two parents killing their own daughter Shutterstock Most parents recognize their personal prime directive is to ensure no harm ever comes to their children.

    Although the couple came from different religious backgrounds Muslim and Roman Catholicthey both took the "honor thy father and mother" part of the Bible way too seriously. On November 6,they confronted their year-old daughter, Tina, over behavior they disapproved of. The confrontation ended with Maria holding Tina down while Zein stabbed her to death. It was the sort of awful tragedy that plays out again and again in the margins of newspapers, with one major difference.

    While they never recorded Zein taking part in any large-scale terrorism, they did accidentally record Tina's murder.

    The whole transcript later appeared in People. The worst part is the way it starts out sounding just like any other family argument.

    Maria and Zein yell at Tina for taking a job and boyfriend they don't like. Tina yells back, only for Isa to suddenly say "Listen, my dear daughter. Do you know that this is the last day?

    Tonight you're going to die. Thanks to this disturbing tape, Maria and Zein both died in prison. That was the day Islamic fundamentalists exploded a gigantic car bomb underneath the Twin Towers, killing six people including a pregnant womaninjuring over 1, and causing millions of dollars of damage. The cell that carried out the attack turned out to contain a mere seven people, one of whom was an FBI informant.

    During the lengthy investigation into the bombing, tapes made by the informant emerged which appeared to suggest the FBI could have stopped the attack before it happened via Independent. At the time, the tapes were as embarrassing for the Feds as pictures of J. Edgar Hoover wearing a pink tutu.

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    Although the majority of the tapes were made after the WTC bombing, the informer can clearly be heard on them discussing with his handler how he'd previously purchased the timer for the WTC bomb as part of his undercover work, using federal money. Although the attackers ultimately didn't use that timer, the mere fact the FBI signed off on its purchase should have set off alarm bells from the J.

    Edgar Hoover Building to Quantico. Perhaps even freakier, the tapes made after the bombing appear to show nothing but agents covering their asses for the attack and blaming their supervisors via New York Times. While it remains a topic of debate how much more the FBI could have realistically done, the tapes still make for sad listening.

    That's pretty much the exact bl chinese drama of how the establishment saw him in the s. King was regarded on Capitol Hill as little more than a Communist agitator. So sure was J. Edgar Hoover that King was one of the bad guys that he authorized illegal bugging and wiretapping of King. Hence the infamous "sex tape. The Hollywood Reporter has the story. The tape is reported to have been a collage of King's infidelities, possibly spliced in with a likely fake clip of him propositioning a man.

    Although the tape has since vanished, the originals it was stitched together from haven't. Smithsonian reports that a court order means their contents will be unsealed and made public sometime in Aside from the vicarious thrill factor of hearing a titan of history having a bit of hanky-panky, the MLK tapes the FBI holds are mostly disturbing for what they say about the Bureau itself.

    Within living memory, the FBI considered it part of its duties to spy on those campaigning for equality and try and destroy them through blackmail and faked audio clips. In a way, that's creepier than any murder tape. From June to Halloween that year, they drove around California's lonely backroads in a modified torture van, offering rides to teenage girls before raping them and killing them using toolbox implements.

    As ThoughtCo explains, their insanely sick plan was to murder one girl for each teenage year from 13 to They nearly succeeded, killing five girls aged 13 to 18 before finally being caught.

    One of the last to die was Lynette Ledford. We won't go into the details here, but her murder was the exact level of horrible you'd probably expect. The real disturbing aspect, though, was that Bittaker taped part of Ledford's torture session. During his last few weeks as a free man, Bittaker would drive around in his van, replaying that tape over and over again for his own gratification.

    When the pair were finally caught, it became a key piece of evidence in their trial. Many people in the courtroom when the tape was played were left in tears. Bittaker was sentenced to death, while Norris got life in prison. Nearly 40 years later, Bittaker still hasn't been executed. As for the gruesome tape, it remains in the FBI archives. A long-standing rumor suggests it's used to this day to desensitize new agents to the reality of torture. If any tape could achieve such a thing, it's this one.

    The Waco tapes make clear who started the fire YouTube The fire that started in the Branch Davidian compound on April 19,sent more than just 76 lives up in smoke.

    Coming at the end of a protracted FBI siege, it burned the Bureau's reputation into a cinder, destroyed trust in the government, and directly motivated the Oklahoma City bombing, according to History. One key aspect of this fallout was the suspicion the Feds started the fire. But the FBI was ultimately cleared by the emergence of another tape: an audio recording of a group of Davidians starting the deadly fire.

    Transcript of Shirley Ledford’s Tape

    Unknown to those inside the compound, the cartons were bugged. On April 19, one of those bugged cartons just happened to be lying nearby nine Davidians as they discussed starting a fire.

    The tape is eye-opening for being so explicit. One Davidian says "start the fire? Yet another says, "We should have gotten some more hay in here. For all the spin, this may be the tape that reveals what really happened that day. That time J. Edgar Hoover wiretapped JFK for the sheer heck of it Getty Images If you were a gossip columnist in the s, you would have given your eyes, your tongue, and your teeth just for a glimpse of the FBI's Official and Confidential File and then been unable to read it since you'd just given your eyes away, you fool.


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